maemo.org Bugzilla – Bug 5314
Easy to enter ~ ^ ' ` " symbols with 3rd row of special character view
Last modified: 2010-01-14 12:28:03 UTC
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SOFTWARE VERSION: 1.2009.41.-10 STEPS TO REPRODUCE THE PROBLEM: 1. Open xterm (or any app/field that expects keyboard input). 2. Press Ctrl+Fn 3. Press any character on the third row. Example: I was trying to enter a "~" character to terminate a stuck (due to IP address change) ssh session. EXPECTED OUTCOME: Selected character is entered. ACTUAL OUTCOME: Selected character is highlighted, but that's it. The character isn't entered and the palette remains on screen until one taps on a characted on one of the other rows or the blurred area behind it. REPRODUCIBILITY: Always.
AFAIK, this is a *feature* ;-) You need press some key in the keyboard after pressing the special character. For example, for "~", press space.
(In reply to comment #1) > For example, for "~", press space. Ah, that works, thanks :-)
This is the 5th time I see a report by somebody not understanding this interface, hence I'd start calling it a bug. :-P
To be fair, it's documented - I just hadn't found TFM to R at the time (assuming it would be PDF as before I tried to open it directly from the PDF reader which showed an empty "User Guides" folder). But as long as we're keeping this open, a couple of suggestions to make the deadkey row more obvious would be to make it either the first or last row, and give it a slightly different foreground and/or background colour.
*** Bug 5433 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Yes, we will try to fix this problem in Fremantle. Setting target milestone by now.
Actually there had been a discussion already about this. In principle it's a WONTFIX for Fremantle. The current system allows users to select the wanted marks. If the feature needs better advertisement then let's work on that. We do not have any data that any of the proposed solutions would be actually beneficial, or beneficial enough to support the use of implementation and design resources. Setting target milestone to Harmattan.
Some more suggestions for UI hints: - Add (or replace with) an ellipsis ("…") on the pressed dead key label. - Blink the keyboard backlight when a dead key is pressed.
There is an internal proposal to change this, so this *might* be changed in the Fremantle timeframe. Nothing decided yet though. And as always: Feel free to vote for this.
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Also not having found TFM (and this only affecting characters on the third row), IMHO, makes it hard to find the fix for end users What makes it worse is that when those characters are spread around over an onscreen keyboard it is *really* not obvious why they don't work. When using the physical keyboard (via CTRL+Fn) to access them, the whole row does not work, so there is more of a hint (and the work-round of hiting a physical key is also available).
This should be fixed once hildon-input-method-widgets version 3.3.14-1 is released. Closing as FIXED once this has been VERIFIED internally.
This has been fixed in package hildon-input-method-widgets 3.3.14-1+0m5 which is part of the internal build version 2009.44-5 (Note that 2009 is the year and the number after is the week.) Any public update released with or after this build version will include the fix. Please verify that the new version fixes the bug by marking this bug report as VERIFIED after the public update has been released and if you have some time. New behaviour is: * Press once -> dead key highlighted * Press second time -> dead key char printed If you highlight it and then press different key it will highlight the new one (in case it is a dead key as well) or combine the character of it (in case it is non-dead). I think that's an acceptable solution here and people will quickly understand this (as I tend to try things again when they don't seem to work - same here).
(In reply to comment #13) > New behaviour is: > * Press once -> dead key highlighted > * Press second time -> dead key char printed > If you highlight it and then press different key it will highlight the new one > (in case it is a dead key as well) or combine the character of it (in case it > is non-dead). That's excellent, and much better than any of the proposed solutions IMO :-)
*** Bug 5966 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
hi, so what is the reasoning behind this? why do you think a user should press space after pressing one of the characters? let's say I want to type 'cd ~' in the terminal. when the '~' is ticked on the onscreen keyboard, I should go back to the terminal to press enter. why do i need to type a space? note that when '~' is hilighted on the onscreen keyboard and you then type enter immediately, you're back at your prompt saying only 'cd '. why can't we have normal behavior for these keys?
(In reply to comment #16) > let's say I want to type 'cd ~' in the terminal. > why can't we have normal behavior for these keys? Because I sometimes want to enter ñ though I have an english hardware keyboard. Please also read the discussion here. :-)
(In reply to comment #17) > (In reply to comment #16) > > let's say I want to type 'cd ~' in the terminal. > > why can't we have normal behavior for these keys? > > Because I sometimes want to enter ñ though I have an english hardware > keyboard. Please also read the discussion here. :-) > sorry, i didn't read closely enough. now that I get it, I'm okay with this behavior.
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I just voted for this bug, because I had no idea how to enter accented characters, or how to type any of the characters in question. I will create a wiki page for entering accented characters & special characters, since apparently I'm not the only one (even though this is in the user manual in the "Basic Use" chapter).
*** Bug 7210 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
I can confirm this works on 2.2009.51-1.
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The problem reported here should be fixed in the update released today for public: The Maemo5 update version 2.2009.51-1 (also called "PR1.1" sometimes). Please leave a comment if the problem is not fixed for you in this update version.