Comment 1 Carsten Munk (reporter) 2008-11-13 15:10:14 UTC

.. and obviously a step in workaround where maemo-launcher-dev is dpkg -i'ed.

Comment 2 Quim Gil 2008-11-17 09:05:20 UTC

CCing also Andrey as he is supervising the Fremantle architecture.

Comment 3 Eero Tamminen 2008-11-18 13:07:16 UTC

Its the maemo-launcher Hildon booster (/usr/lib/maemo-launcher/booster-gtk.so)
that requires dependency to libhildondesktop-dev.  If it would be put to a
separate source package, build deps should work fine like this:
- libhildondesktop-dev -> maemo-launcher-dev
- maemo-launcher-hildon-booster -> libhildondesktop-dev, maemo-launcher-dev

Comment 4 Andre Klapper 2008-11-18 18:23:40 UTC

I'm a bit lost here.
As this seems to be in the Desktop area and a non-critical issue (hence by
default a WONTFIX for Desktop as far as I understand), I'd really like to know
whether this still applies for Fremantle and whether it's worth to file an
internal ticket about this.

Comments appreciated (Andrey maybe?).

Comment 5 Guillem Jover 2008-11-18 19:41:18 UTC

Just a note, cyclic Build-Depends are common in Debian, and that's one of
the first issue one stomps on when bootstrapping a new port for example,
but then they usually are not visible anymore. Of course those are desirable
to be fixed if feasible, but sometimes it's not. Consider pkg-config using
glib and glib needing pkg-config at build time, in that case pkg-config ships
an old snapshot of glib so that one can bootstrap it first.

(In reply to comment #3)
> Its the maemo-launcher Hildon booster  (/usr/lib/maemo-launcher/booster-gtk.so)
> that requires dependency to libhildondesktop-dev.  If it would be put to a
> separate source package, build deps should work fine like this:
> - libhildondesktop-dev -> maemo-launcher-dev
> - maemo-launcher-hildon-booster -> libhildondesktop-dev, maemo-launcher-dev

Yeah that'd be a possibility given the modular design of the launcher. Another
one would be to split the hildon-desktop from the library, and as I remember
there was already talk about that, maybe there's even an internal bug report.

Comment 6 Carsten Munk (reporter) 2008-11-18 19:48:28 UTC

(In reply to comment #4)
> I'm a bit lost here.
> As this seems to be in the Desktop area and a non-critical issue (hence by
> default a WONTFIX for Desktop as far as I understand), I'd really like to know
> whether this still applies for Fremantle and whether it's worth to file an
> internal ticket about this.

It is true that it is a non-critical and trivial issue, but I don't agree that
because of this that it should be a WONTFIX. 

It is an issue that will improve Hildon (and launcher) adaptation outside of
Maemo, and may help in case of developers internally/externally bootstrapping
Maemo from scratch or in case of people using launcher in other distributions.

But in reply to #5 (thanks for the informative comment), yes, it's reasonable
to have some kind of circular dependancy in some cases - and even if this bug
would be a WONTFIX, it is now documented so future bootstrappers will be aware
this issue exists and can work with it.

Comment 7 Andre Klapper 2008-11-20 20:46:42 UTC

Hmm, I assume this is worth importing to fix this for Fremantle?

Comment 8 Andre Klapper 2008-11-24 14:12:55 UTC

Silence = compliance.

(In reply to comment #6)
> I don't agree that because of this that it should be a WONTFIX. 

Sorry, I've been misleading - I meant "WONTFIX for Diablo", but definitely NOT
for Fremantle.

Comment 9 Carsten Munk (reporter) 2008-11-24 19:43:09 UTC

Definately WONTFIX for Diablo. My interest is in
stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/trunk/maemo-launcher personally, - a fix
at some point would be most welcome, but not critical for SDK or actual
release.

Comment 10 Carsten Munk (reporter) 2009-05-07 12:25:46 UTC

Seems to be fixed in Fremantle Beta, as libhildondesktop is seperated out from
hildon-desktop. Still a pain for us as we use the old HD. Does anyone happen to
know if beta libhildondesktop is still usable for the old HD?

Comment 11 Andre Klapper 2009-06-04 18:42:17 UTC

Internal comment:  "Circular dependency only seems to exist for old hildon
desktop (libhildondesktop0)"

Comment 12 Andre Klapper 2009-09-17 01:06:10 UTC

(In reply to comment #10)
> Seems to be fixed in Fremantle Beta, as libhildondesktop is seperated out from
> hildon-desktop.

So can this be closed as FIXED?

Comment 13 Andre Klapper 2009-09-28 16:24:33 UTC

Closing as per comment 10.