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Comment 2 Andre Klapper 2008-06-27 13:09:53 UTC

I'm a bit afraid it could confuse the "average" user...?

And being a newbie not used to dummy connections, can i get a basic explanation
and how to create one (even if it's not displayed currently)?
Thanks in advance. :-)

http://maemo.org/community/wiki/DummyIAP/

used for instance here:
https://wiki.maemo.org/USB_networking

Maybe make it available through the red pill mode?

What's the point of it in red pill? Some people are using PAN and USB
connections in their everyday routines. Why stay in red pill all the time (and
is red pill mode used in anything else than application manager)?

Comment 6 Andre Klapper 2008-06-30 12:14:27 UTC

(In reply to comment #0)
> DUMMY connections are the only easy way to get other than the available
> networking options running, without draining the battery.

What is the non-easy way?

Comment 7 Andre Klapper 2008-06-30 12:16:30 UTC

And compared to Chinnok, is this a regression or not?

Two ways: not using connection manager at all (not exactly user friendly) and
using ad-hoc connection and dropping wlan after connecting.

Yes, this is a regression (was working in Chinook) and fanoush mentioned that
another such regression happened in OS2007.

Comment 9 Aapo Makela 2008-06-30 15:50:43 UTC

Diablo has a revised version of Internet Connectivity Daemon (icd2) which works
somewhat differently compared to the old version (osso-ic). Unfortunately we
didn't notice the lack of DUMMY IAP support in time, but we are looking into
solving this one.

When I ran usbEthUp.sh manually, it complained about line 36: udhcpc not found.

Comment 11 Andre Klapper 2008-07-14 13:52:47 UTC

(In reply to comment #10)
> When I ran usbEthUp.sh manually, it complained about line 36: udhcpc not found.

Not really a helpful comment... Hardware and software version? What has it to
do with this bug report at all?

Comment 12 Andre Klapper 2008-07-14 18:25:30 UTC

(In reply to comment #9)
> Diablo has a revised version of Internet Connectivity Daemon (icd2) which works
> somewhat differently compared to the old version (osso-ic). Unfortunately we
> didn't notice the lack of DUMMY IAP support in time, but we are looking into
> solving this one.

Aapo, is there an internal ticket (Please only the number, no full URLs)?
Could not find one... Otherwise I'd forward this.

N800.  Diablo.
The usbEthUp.sh script is called as part of the flow.

--V

(In reply to comment #11)
> (In reply to comment #10)
> > When I ran usbEthUp.sh manually, it complained about line 36: udhcpc not found.
> 
> Not really a helpful comment... Hardware and software version? What has it to
> do with this bug report at all?
>

Comment 14 Patrik Flykt 2008-07-22 15:37:22 UTC

As said on the maemo users mailing list the idea is to enable the dummy network
feature for icd2 and have it working as before. Ufortunately we discovered a
minor bug in the process, but once that gets resolved, I hope we'll have the
same dummy
network functionality as before.

Comment 15 Patrik Flykt 2008-07-29 08:51:28 UTC

(In reply to comment #12)
> ...is there an internal ticket

int-86672 for the bug discovered.

Comment 16 Andre Klapper 2008-07-29 15:28:05 UTC

(In reply to comment #15)
> int-86672 for the bug discovered.

Oh, that did not sound like the same issue to me when searching.
Shall I mark int-87041 as a dup of int-86672 then? TIA

Comment 17 Quim Gil 2008-07-29 23:06:15 UTC

This bug is famous now:
http://www.edn.com/index.asp?layout=blog&blog_id=400000040&blog_post_id=940030694
:)

Comment 18 Patrik Flykt 2008-07-30 08:45:09 UTC

(In reply to comment #16)
> Oh, that did not sound like the same issue to me when searching.

int-87041 is what we'll be waiting for to get fixed and released, as it's
blocking the DUMMY network module feature. After that we'll proceed with this
one.

OMG, guys, is it possible it can be fixed soon?

Hi Nokia guys,
I'm not very experienced with packaging, but do you think it'd be worth the
time to package the current workaround, and possibly try to detect connections
to the dummy interface to automate PAN connections?

Here are the main considerations that I can think of:
- Package depends on becomeroot (can be modified to use rootsh or anything more
'standard' that's in the extras repo).
- It'd be really nice for it to auto-create an ad-hoc wifi connection that can
be used with the PAN startup script.
- I think someone mentioned there's DBus integration that could allow
auto-execution of the script when a particular wlan connection is made,
probably requiring an extra dependency.
- Cleanup is important as this is supposed to be a temporary workaround :)

I'd be willing to work on this if a fix is going to take a while, but I can't
guarantee perfect integration (and would like pointers on the points listed
above if packaging seems necesssary).

Is there a work-around so I can use my pc as a gateway through usb again as
described on https://wiki.maemo.org/USB_networking until this bug is fixed?

There's a workaround somewhere in this thread:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21263

Comment 23 Patrik Flykt 2008-08-18 13:46:08 UTC

The dummy network module is now uploaded to the repository. From the
commandline as root do 'apt-get install libicd-network-dummy', as its not
visible through Application manager. The network name is hardcoded for now so
one does not need to run the gconf setting command described in the wiki
somewhere.

Comment 24 Frantisek Dufka 2008-08-19 12:05:29 UTC

(In reply to comment #23)
> The network name is hardcoded for now so
> one does not need to run the gconf setting command described in the wiki
> somewhere.

So this is just quick fix and better solution is coming? We need more dummy
connections with different names so more solutions can coexist on same device.
This was possible before breaking this. Now it is impossible to differentiate
bluetooth pan from usb networking and do the right thing automatically when
such dummy connection is opened.

Comment 25 Patrik Flykt 2008-08-20 08:18:19 UTC

(In reply to comment #24)
> So this is just quick fix and better solution is coming?

This was supposed to be the solution enabling dummy network support once and
for all.

> We need more dummy
> connections with different names so more solutions can coexist on same device.

Ah, that was a usage scenario not envisioned or implemented. Ok, let's fix this
as well; now I just need someone from here with some spare time. Unfortunately
that may or may not mean 1st week of September.

Note to self: It was also pointed out that the debian package section is to
contain 'user' for the package to appear in Application manager.

Comment 26 Frantisek Dufka 2008-08-20 11:52:36 UTC

(In reply to comment #25)
> Ah, that was a usage scenario not envisioned or implemented. Ok, let's fix this
> as well

Thank you. Such custom solutions listen to com.nokia.icd connect/disconnect
events and check IAP name and do the right thing, see
https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/pan-daemon.c?revision=3&root=maemo-pan&view=markup

So apart from having more DUMMY connections with custom name, correct name
should be sent in the event when specific connection is opened from the GUI
(not sure if this is obvious).


> Note to self: It was also pointed out that the debian package section is to
> contain 'user' for the package to appear in Application manager.
> 

User-friendly solutions such as maemo-pan can pull this as dependency so maybe
it is preferable to leave it hidden. Advanced users who can run the gconf
command to create dummy IAP can handle apt-get too.

I'm responsible for the USB LAN networking package, which was the other big one
that relied on a DUMMY connection so just want to say first off thanks for the
quick response on this, at least we have a functional (if not ideal) solution!

Hope that things work out and we get back to the "old style" of dummy where we
can specify names/etc as pointed out previously, but in the meantime is there
any way to enable/disable the DUMMY network? via gconf, removing a file,
anything? Just to work as a temp solution until it gets solved right out
because at the moment there doesn't seem to be a way for users to even manually
enable/disable it... once it's installed, it's always there; once it's
uninstalled, it's gone. The best I can come up with at the moment requires a
restart of the icd daemon; is there any other slightly less drastic option?

Thanks!

I have Diablo installed in QEMU. Upgraded it to latest and installed
'libicd-network-dummy'.

When I start QEMU I add emulated USB networking card (as there is no emulation
of g_ether or wifi) to be able to connect to outside emulation. It works fine
for normal applications (apt-get for example) but when I try to use any maemo
app (web browser or app-manager) after long time all I have is "select
connection" window with 'dummy network' DISABLED - how to fix it?

Comment 29 Patrik Flykt 2008-09-05 14:44:52 UTC

(In reply to comment #28)
> It works fine
> for normal applications (apt-get for example) but when I try to use any maemo
> app (web browser or app-manager) after long time all I have is "select
> connection" window with 'dummy network' DISABLED - how to fix it?

ICd2 should be running, without it maemo apps cannot gain network access.

Comment 30 Patrik Flykt 2008-09-05 14:46:15 UTC

Fixed, libicd-network-dummy v. 0.12 is now in the repository.

Comment 31 Andre Klapper 2008-09-09 13:26:33 UTC

If there are no DUMMY connections visible in Select connection dialog after
installing libicd-network-dummy module 0.12 from maemo.org, run

gconftool-2 -s -t string /system/osso/connectivity/IAP/DUMMY/type DUMMY
gconftool-2 -s -t string /system/osso/connectivity/IAP/DUMMY/name 'Dummy
network'"
gconftool-2 -s -t boolean /system/osso/connectivity/IAP/DUMMY/autoconnect true