Comment 1 Quim Gil 2007-06-27 06:42:47 UTC

Rating open to anonymous users would open an easy door to misbehaviour. Of
course you can still dope ratings with registered users but it more of a hassle
for the dopers.

But I agree with you on the problem of lack of rating. Let's find causes and
solutions. Once we agree on them we will jump to action. Some ideas (bring your
own):

- Users have to login every time. Login just for voting makes many people lazy
(including myself). If I would be already logged in I would mark stars easier.

- There is no clear promotion of the ratings. Showing the top rated apps in the
maemo.org homepage (say top 3) and the application catalog (say top 10) would
probably help.

- Also imagine that ratings and voplume of votes would be one more measure used
by Nokia when deciding what applications to promote in Tableteer or what
developers woukld deserve a discount code when a new device program arrives.

I agree that it is a bit easier to mess around anonymous votes, but it's quite
easy to make normal users not to be able to vote twice: just add a voted
cookie. Or, if you currently make a individual visitor cookie, just rely on
that. Cookie is good enough level of 'security' for voting purposes. Always
store the ip address of the vote as well. It's then easy to clean the vote
database in case some individual tries to mess with the votes. Also, store the
userid in the vote - that way you can separate registered votes from anonymous
votes.

Comment 3 Quim Gil 2007-06-27 11:37:17 UTC

Well ok, sounds reasonable. And not conflicting with the rest of ideas to carry
on anyway to promote the application catalog.

Reassigning to Ferenc since he is collecting proposal for improvement of the
catalog.

As just an idea, perhaps also the top 3 applications could be promoted on the
tableteer web site. Also, it might be a good idea to include link to the maemo
downloads page in the next firmware as default. That way even maemo n00bs would
immediately know about it.

Comment 5 Quim Gil 2007-06-27 13:06:18 UTC

We are defining already a proposal to bridge the maemo application catalog with
Tableteer.

The link from the browser is a good idea. I won't push it until the catalog
itself is in good shape, though. Let's reconsider this possibility in August,
after the second round of improvements is done.

one approach would be to maintain two buckets of votes, one for anonymous votes
and one for registered users.

until a download receives a certain number of votes from registered users, show
the anonymous score with some indication that it's from anonymous users.

after it receives a certain number, switch to showing the registered user
score. You can optionally show unregistered votes.

of course, this approach assumed some sort of 1..5 rating scale. not a simple
0/+1 scale.

As for how do compare votes for apps that have received a registered quota or
are still ranked by unregistered users. I dunno. Perhaps a simple scale between
the highest voted unregistered app and the 75% registered app. (Something like,
if the top registered download has 100 votes the bottom of the top quartile has
40 votes, and the top unregistered has 50 votes, then 5 votes are worth 4, and
a download w/ 20 unregistered votes is worth 16.)

Comment 7 Ferenc Szekely 2007-10-23 11:05:42 UTC

This is implemented in the new catalog which will be launched soon.

Great! Looking forward to it. Good stuff!

Closing FIXED bugs. if error/problem still occurs, please reopen bug with
comments.